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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 21, 2016, 01:11:26 AM »
If I remember right, then converting the image to a PNG file will allow for true color.
Magicavoxel  only allows a 256 colour palette.  No truecolour.

Now for the bad news I mentioned earlier.

Because DeiMWolf was originally made for Legacy, the maps are in standard format, and use fraggle script. There are no polyobjects in this mode.

Pushwalls in DeiMWolf are simulated by using a series of thin sectors. A script for each pushwall sets the floorheight of each of the thin sectors to 0 in sequence, making the wall appear to slowly recede.

I downloaded the new versions (1.9.0 and 2.1.0) and they both have the same problem.  Instead of the sectors being instantly set to 0, they lower at turbo speed.  This makes the pushwalls appear to flicker instead of moving smoothly as they did before.  This basically ruins the effect.

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 21, 2016, 01:11:26 AM »

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #121 on: February 21, 2016, 07:37:28 AM »
Then yeah, your coloring issues are because of the palette.
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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #122 on: February 21, 2016, 10:12:28 AM »
The good looking screenshot above was done in GZDooM 2.1.0.  In version 1.82, which I normally use, and in the latest 1.X version 1.9.0 that was just released, there is a bug.  I call it the "GZDooM Grey Voxel Bug" and it affects a number of the voxel objects I have made.

The good news is the voxels look fine in version 2.1.0


Theoretically. Some PNGs also use palettes though, so you have to be careful.

I don't know much about hardware rendering, but it sounds like this is just a bug in gzDoom; if it works in gzdoom 2.1.0 better than it does in gzdoom 1.x I think that's ok.

@Boingo: Just wondering, why are you concerned about supporting old versions of gzdoom? Even if you're going for Zandronum support I'd recommend just leaving it as it is. Zand will catch up and fix this coloration problem eventually.

@CM/Replica: Remember that gzdoom never sees these pngs he's talking about, it only sees the voxel models, Boingo's not providing a 3d model with a skin, it's a blob of pixels that each have an indexed color.

With that said I think you guys are right, and it is a palette problem, but in my opinion this sounds like an internal palette bug in gzDoom, because IIRC gzDoom renders a voxel model to an md3 before drawing it, because the OpenGL renderer is slow at rendering voxels. I think this is something that Boingo wouldn't even have any control over.
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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #123 on: February 21, 2016, 06:05:19 PM »
@Boingo: Just wondering, why are you concerned about supporting old versions of gzdoom? Even if you're going for Zandronum support I'd recommend just leaving it as it is. Zand will catch up and fix this coloration problem eventually.

I am not concerned about old versions. 1.8.2 was simply the version I was using.  I was unaware of the new versions until recently.

What concerns me now is the new problem that affects the pushwalls.

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #124 on: July 24, 2016, 03:34:43 AM »
Progress report: July 24, 2016

After five months of neglect, I decided give DeiMWolf some love.

I was trying to make a set of 3D electrical conduit pipes in the elevators using sloped 3D sectors.

It was messy (mapwise), a lot of tedious work, and the results were not satisfactory.



The voxel version I have been working on the last few days looks much better.

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #125 on: July 24, 2016, 04:49:42 PM »
That does look much better. Nice work!
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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2016, 10:38:05 PM »
I love voxels. I don't know if there are many mods using them, but I love the way they fit into the Doom style...
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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #127 on: July 28, 2016, 10:10:07 AM »
There is one problem with voxels.

The textures and sprites in DeiMWolf are in high resolution, so I must my voxels in higher resolution as well, but I am finding my higher resolution voxels are causing a reduction in frame rate. 

The most significant offender is the wooden barrel.

Whenever there are more than three barrels on the screen at the same time, the frame rate on my machine decreases noticeably.  It is most noticeable in a storage room on E1M4, where there are several barrels, a large room on E1M8, where there are more than a dozen barrels clustered together, and—worst of all—the last two room on E3M8, where the player must navigate a slalom course of barrels to get to the elevator with dozens of barrels in view at once.  The game goes from smooth and easy motion to slow a choppy motion similar to what players used to experience with DooM back before the client server model was adopted when trying to play online.

I have no idea what to do about this problem right now.

In lighter news, I have now changed all of the elevators in the game to use the voxel pipes, and I have changed the mounting brackets for the handrails in the elevators over from 3D sectors to a voxel bracket as well.

Also, as an experiment, I altered a hallway early in E1M1 (the one with the MP40 hidden behind a secret wall), lowering the light level, and adding a series of ceiling joists and braces for more detail.  I don't know if I will do this for other rooms.

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #128 on: August 05, 2016, 12:19:36 AM »
Progress Report: August 4, 2016

About a week  ago, 75 mentioned another Wolfenstein based mod, and pointed out  that it has all six episodes of W3D, as opposed to DeiMwolf, which only has the original three.

Yesterday I disconnected my computer, and for the last two days I have been working at various tasks that require the old computer, including running FloEdit, and old Wolfenstein 3D editor to allow me to recreate some of the Nocturnal Missions episodes.

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Re: DeiMWolf Progress Thread
« Reply #129 on: October 30, 2016, 06:09:54 PM »
Progress Report: October 30, 2016

I finally have Doktor Schabbs in the game.



Just standing and running sprites so far, but I hope to have more soon.

 

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