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Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:32:36 PM »
Using a git build of gzdoom, I tried playing the strife maps with TUCQR6. I couldn't change weapons properly, and the new enemies were having a spaz attack (no offense to you british).

Ironically, TUCQR5 as a pwad to doom.wad ran better. The first problem was nonexistent. The second problem remained.

Here is a video of the second problem
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7lPL-bfC8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7lPL-bfC8</a>

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Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:32:36 PM »

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 10:49:14 PM »
Considering Strife hasn't been active in forever, I doubt this will ever be addressed :P
Although someone could make an unofficial patch if they wanted... Looks like a case of sprite botching to me but IDK


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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 11:47:58 PM »
Well, Strife's maps were designed for Doom Legacy. I don't know if it could be GZDoom problems with it.

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2014, 03:13:32 AM »
Right! Derp. Yeah, that would do it... And probably not easily fixable...


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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2014, 12:17:42 PM »
Thing is, I could have sworn that map was working properly in an earlier version of (g)zdoom (maybe zandronum, idk).

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 01:24:55 PM »
Do the Strife maps have custom weapons?

When T.U.C.Q. was in Legacy it used a DEHackEd patch, and Strife's levels likely would have too.

but

In order to get T.U.C.Q. working properly as an IWAD in GZDooM I had to redo the weapons as part of the DECORATE lump, and define the weapon slots.  I am pretty sure that would break any weapons using DEHackEd. In fact, I found that weapons created in DEHacKed were not being selected, because GZDooM was ignoring them in favour of the DECORATE versions.  For example, in (the current unreleased versio of) DeiMWolf (uses the same sorts of changes as T.U.C.Q.) there was a problem with switching weapons. If I picked up the MP40 I could not select it. Eventually I discovered it was because the pickup was being applied to the DEHackEd version of the weapon, but I was only able the switch between the DECORATE versions.  If the Strife levels are using DEHackEd based custom weapons, this is probably what is happening.


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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2014, 10:08:50 AM »
Adding dehacked patch strife_levelpack.wad:DEHACKED
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:dehsupp.txt" line 318:
Invalid state range in 'LostSoul'

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 09:13:40 PM »
Maybe Strife was trying to do the same sort of nonstandard hacking I was doing in Legacy.

Legacy did not have the DECORATE lump, but it did hide the Heretic tables below the DooM tables, and I got things working by hacking those tables.

If Strife tried the same, that would cause the error you experienced.

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2014, 10:37:31 PM »
I tested the wad with zandronum 1.2.2 and it works perfectly. Tested it in zandronum 2 build 140112-1124 and it's broken again. Must be a change in zdoom 2.5

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2014, 12:16:52 PM »
I am afraid  I am unable to fix the problem then.

I recomend you try playing with T.U.C.Q. Phase II beta 3 and DooM Legacy v 1.42.

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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 07:52:53 PM »
I remember Strife having a double shotgun. (A large Zorcher in each hand), but that's all the weapons I can remember.

I'm pretty sure he did some crazy dehacked stuff in his levels. Those spider flemoids he had were originally the doom barrel if I recall correctly. I would imagine that there is a good chance he had some heretic edits in there too.
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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 12:43:11 PM »
How the heck does he mix this stuff?!?!? He has to tell me his secrets!!!

Probably just using some DECORATE and DeHackED stuff.
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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2014, 01:15:11 AM »
No DECORATE, that only exists in zdoom.

It's not necessary to "mix" stuff in zDoom/Zandronum, since you can declare actors from scratch rather than re-using frames.
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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2014, 12:02:57 PM »
Oh, sorry. I didn't know decorate wasn't in GZDooM. I don't do hardly any GZDooM.
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Re: Strife maps don't like gzdoom 2.8pre
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2014, 05:07:27 PM »
... No, DECORATE is in GzDoom; GzDoom is based off of zDoom. DECORATE is not in Legacy.
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