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Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
« on: July 16, 2016, 09:47:43 PM »
So here's the thing- If you'll recall, I was working on a new series of maps, which start with the Loading Bay: http://www.chexquest.org/index.php?topic=5353.0

So I want the Loading Bay to leading into a city-esque setting, but I'm having difficulty with what that should look like.  It starts off with a kind of subway hub that I like a lot, but then the "subway" (which is just a series of teleporters) leads out to sections of the city.  Thing is, a city is massive, seemingly endless, and sprawling.  That's kind of hard to pull off in a doom/chex map without a lot of detail.  As of right now, as you will see in the video below, my solution was to just smush the player into one gated area of the city at a time.  Problem is, it looks weird, and it feels awkward. In the video, you will see that there is a big area in the middle. As of right now, I plan to put a building there that the player will go inside.  The idea right now is that the player will go into one hub, get whatever key is necessary there, and then move back to the central hub and move on to the next part of the city. 

I'm looking for some criticism of this idea.  Is the whole thing terrible? Should a city just have no place in a chex map? Is it salvageable with a lot more work?

Just wondering what your thoughts are.

Thank you in advance! Here it is:

 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MogiYJtk2nQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MogiYJtk2nQ</a>

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Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
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Re: Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2016, 10:41:12 PM »
Here is an idea: instead of having fences blocking everything off, use flemoid created slime structures to do it. That way, it makes slightly more sense.

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Re: Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2016, 04:57:20 PM »
You could always play Chex 2 map 4 for inspiration.

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Re: Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 12:05:33 AM »
I like the style so far, and it is tough to pull off a large city feeling given the limited chex texture set. But I think it is possible, and for inspiration maybe check out this topic here: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/60796-examples-of-city-wads/

They're all doom but maybe it'll inspire you. I personally tried Hellbound and Dawn of Reality, both excellent creations of cities (Hellbound has several city levels).
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Re: Need your advice re: City Level I'm working on...
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 06:32:31 AM »
I didn't watch the video but here's some off the cuff advice.

Chex 2 already has a city sky texture.

Find some opensource textures of windows and draw over them with thicker lines and enhance the colors. BOOM, building texture. It's dumb and simple but it goes a long way if you dont have anything else.

Use regular hanger doors on the buildings but put a grey border all the way around them and have the doors slide down.

Use lots of 3d sectors and other types of trickery to have the buildings be consistantly explorable from the inside.

Use some giant walls of flemoid slime and police barriers as artificial barriers to guide the player throughout the level......Dont do the Doom 2 thing where you paint an arrow on the ground or something like that. I think TUCQ has some police barrier textures in it, if you can't find them then shoot Boingo a message.

Have at least one section in the level where the player can walk to the edge of a rooftop and see the rest of the city.  It's cool and makes it feel more like a city.

Not every building needs to be a big skyscraper, that's not how real cities work. Put some shops or restaurants in there!

Have  A  LOT   OF   ENEMIES    in this map. I can't stress enough that big open environments aren't fun if there's not a lot of things to shoot at, and big buildings can also provide some necessary cover for projectile avoidance. PROJECTILE AVOIDANCE is what makes Chex Quest in particular stand out from DOOM, so having lots of situations where the player can dodge bullets and hide behind cover builds adrenaline and keeps them on their toes.

Inside the buildings, you can put regular dumb melee guys.

EDIT:: Ok so I watched the video.

You've got a cool hub thing set up here, if I were making the level I'd have a sort of futuristic train station theme here but if you want to keep your kind of red-carpet industrial feel than I recommend some more signs on the walls. Get/make some more custom textures of informational signs to plaster onto the walls. They don't really need to be actually helpful, just some scenery.

On that note, make some kind of wild logo on the floor in the center of the hub to ground it all together.
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